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ScootKulture
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:56 am  Reply with quote
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There has been some discussion about an alternative to the ever popular Ipone two-stroke oil. Apparently it's a clean burning, unscented oil that is about one-quarter the price of Ipone. The name, however escapes me. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Maybe it's available by the gallon at Fleet Farm or somesuch?
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Clean burning?!? Good god, man, why?!?

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If it's unscented it's gonna be louder.
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Clearly "clean burning" is a relative term when you're talking scooters. Don't worry, the fumes will still get you rippin' high - or least light headed.
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Fleet Farm does sell a couple of different Amsoil synthetics. Both are available in gallon jugs. I only know one person that's running Amsoil, and he's happy with it.
That's all I got.
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Target still might have the .94 bottles of Castrol in the clearence section.

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I use Amsoil in my bikes. I get it in Gallon jugs from a local dealer here in the EC. I forget the name of the type I get Amsoil has several types of 2T oil.

Anyway, I've had great results with it so far. It seems to perform a little better than the Ipone in that the bike seems to rev out better.

I don't know if it burns any "cleaner" than Ipone but it does smell more like burning oil and less like strawberries.

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I just drop a pound of butter in there periodically. Smells like popcorn when it's running. With the Sito+ exhaust it makes me thinking of movie theaters. Really hard to start on those cold winter mornings though.

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Really hard to start on those cold winter mornings though.

Pffft... You don't have an engine block heater for your scoot??
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ScootKulture wrote:
There has been some discussion about an alternative to the ever popular Ipone two-stroke oil. Apparently it's a clean burning, unscented oil that is about one-quarter the price of Ipone. The name, however escapes me. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Maybe it's available by the gallon at Fleet Farm or somesuch?
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There is a little logo and number on the bottles that show how they are tested. SAE and JAS (or something like that standing for the Japanese Auto Society or something of the like) are the agencies that test for relatively clean burning for 2 stroke oil. There are different levels. Several different brands have been tested and are marked as such. But I promise you, you'll miss the ipone smell. Motul is a distinct smell in itself as well. Both good in my opinion. when you pull up to someone burning your old favorite oil and smell it you'll regret switching.
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But I promise you, you'll miss the ipone smell. Motul is a distinct smell in itself as well. Both good in my opinion. when you pull up to someone burning your old favorite oil and smell it you'll regret switching.

Yeah, I like the Ipone and all, but my scoot burns through it VERY FAST - and it's not cheap.
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When you say "VERY FAST", how fast are you talking, and what's your scoot? Changing brands doesn't make much difference in how fast you go through the oil - if you're running an autolube, it's metering the oil the same regardless, and if you're premixing you're metering the same regardless. Because some oils are thicker than others, there may be a small difference; but if that's very much then something's wrong.

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I go thru oil pretty fast as well. But then again, I'm usually flogging the bitch.
As always, YMMV.
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Happy Fleet Farm purchased Amsoil user here.

+40K miles... no problems.
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When you say "VERY FAST", how fast are you talking, and what's your scoot?


I guess I haven't paid that close of attention, but it sure seemed like that crappy quart of snowmobile oil that came with my injected P200 lasted about twice as long as a litre of Ipone. But who knows - maybe I'd just been huffing too much two stroke exhaust. I'll keep a closer watch on it.

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Happy Fleet Farm purchased Amsoil user here.


Do you know which version you're using? Interceptor, Dominator, etc?

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Motul...


Motul is good too? I see they have a "Scooter Power" line. Elite!

So if I'm going to change oil brands, what is the recommended way to go about it? Are there dangers in mixing oil types? Two stroke oils don't seem to be clearly categorized like regular engine oils - 10w30, 5w40, etc. Should I run my reservoir 3/4 empty and just fill it up with my new stuff, run it almost bone dry and refill, or fully remove and drain the reservoir?
When I originally changed to Ipone I ran it down until it registered about halfway up in the sight glass, then added Ipone little by little over the next week or so.
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