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Kevin K
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:15 am  Reply with quote
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Hey all,
On the way home last night, the P started acting funny. You have to keep giving it gas or it kills. Runs fine at higher RPM's. Could this be something as simple a piece of dirt in one the jets? What else should I be looking for?
Man, I really need to learn more about these things.
Hoping to fix the problem so I can ride to the Fair on Friday.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:28 am  Reply with quote
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you have a dirty idle jet
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yeah start with that you can see which one it is here, you just need to take off the airbox cover and filter to get to it.

http://vespamaintenance.com/fuel/carbrebuild/index.html

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:32 am  Reply with quote
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Thanks guys! I already have the cowl off and I'm ready to tear into it when I get home. Looks like I'll be feasting on corn dogs and mini-donuts after all.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:40 pm  Reply with quote
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Tonight's evening consisted of getting greasy, pulling jets, an air compressor, copious amounts of swearing, and finally getting the thing to idle.
Tomorrow's ride into work will reveal if I'm successful or (still) a moron.
Fingers crossed that I won't have to blip the throttle at stoplights like some knuckle dragging idiot.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:59 am  Reply with quote
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Me again. We're right back to square one.
FWIW, it will idle on full choke (and this is fully warmed up). Thoughts?
Guess I'm gonna pull it apart and clean everything again.
Lather, rinse, repeat....
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two words: twist and go ;]

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:38 am  Reply with quote
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Damn you Ron...

Yeah try again, fill up a shady gas station? or let the tank get really empty? might be getting a bunch of dirt from somewhere.

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air leak?
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Hmmm...possibly. My air bellows is looking a little suspect. Time to check for tears?
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That wouldn't matter more like loose/warped carb or that seal that didn't get replaced because they gave you the wrong one.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:47 am  Reply with quote
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Idling only on choke is a tell-tale sign of clogged pilot circuit. Look deeper than just the jet. The passages leading to and from the pilot jet NEED to be spic and span; like clean enough to eat off of. Your whole carb interior needs to be that clean. Carb cleaner, compressed air, red scotch bright and a half pack of smokes.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:15 pm  Reply with quote
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hungaryjack1 wrote:
Carb cleaner, compressed air, red scotch bright and a half pack of smokes.

= fireball, no eyebrows...;-)
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hungaryjack1 wrote:
Idling only on choke is a tell-tale sign of clogged pilot circuit. Look deeper than just the jet. The passages leading to and from the pilot jet NEED to be spic and span; like clean enough to eat off of. Your whole carb interior needs to be that clean. Carb cleaner, compressed air, red scotch bright and a half pack of smokes.

Which would make sense. I cleaned the jet, blew compressed air into the passage and it ran great after that. This morning we're right back where we started, so obviously there's a piece of something in there.

Do you recommend removing the carb, or can I get at everything with it in place?

To answer Matt's question, no I haven't run the tank dry. I did, however, check the filter and didn't find any debris in there. Hmm. Shitty gas? Perhaps.
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It's so easy to remove that if you're having fights after a good jet cleaning, you're best off to yank it and get your hands in there from underneath. My opinion, anyway.

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