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Ben
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:57 pm  Reply with quote
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Got it on ebay #4561989382
Anybody interested?
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Derrick
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:12 pm  Reply with quote
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I thought you sold it before?

Can you give me the engine prefix letters?
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Ben
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:03 pm  Reply with quote
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I put it on ebay a year ago. The high bidder was in England. He was havng a bit of a hard time figuring out the shipping, and I was having a hard time parting with it, so we both let each other out of the deal.
Last summer, I sold my classic car and another vespa too, and it was just too much to see all my bachelor toys go at once. I'm ready now though, and we really need the money. In a few short years, i went from supporting one person on my salary to four peoplke, and we moved into a much more expensive house.
Tell me where to find the number you are talking about and I'll go find it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:31 pm  Reply with quote
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did you say the dude from DCtalk ownded this??? seriously??? PM me.

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Ben
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:10 pm  Reply with quote
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yes i'm serious. And Jane Pratt (of jane magazine) is seriously my sister. Does that make me more valuable?
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Derrick
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:52 am  Reply with quote
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The engine number is on the swing arm behind the exhaust down pipe. It should start with some letters and then some numbers.

Thanks.
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Ben
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:52 pm  Reply with quote
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Derrick;
The numbers you asked for:

VSC1M
007590

The first part is below the second part, like i wrote it here.

What does this tell you?

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Derrick
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:22 am  Reply with quote
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I was wondering because the flywheel is from a GS160 not an SS180. Someone must have changed it. I thought maybe the whole engine was from a GS160 but at least the case(s) are SS180. VSC = SS180. Or maybe the early SS's had GS flywheels. Never heard that though.

Looks like a decent bike but some of it has been altered from original.

Someone has drilled a bunch of holes in the front brake hub and back plate. Probably thinking it would improve brake cooling?

The tail light is incorrect. A common thing to change because most people prefer the looks of the early "acorn" style. But the original ones are harder to find.

It looks like a non battery model (no key on headset) but it used to have a battery?

I prefer original paint with warts and all. It's hard to tell what a paint job has covered up.

But having said all that - it still LOOKS like a decent SS from the pics. SS 's are pretty rare. There are only a handful in the Twin Cites. I think there are more GS160's in town.

$3999.00 is a bit high IMHO. If it was all original in really good shape maybe. I saw an SS that looked original factory new (really) with around 100 miles on it sell for $4500.00. That was probably a fair price.

I want an SS but I am very pernicky about it. If I'm going to spend the dough it has to be very nice original.

Thanks for the info and good luck.
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Ben
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:57 am  Reply with quote
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Derrick:
What would you say it's worth?
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Derrick
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:51 am  Reply with quote
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The smart ass thing to say is it's worth whatever someone will pay.

It is hard for me to say because I have not seen the scooter up close.

If the body is correct, complete, straight and clean, the mechanicals have not been bodged and it runs well, I would say a fair price would be around $2500.00. Maybe more, maybe less.

There are many other questions to answer before a I would offer a price.

Like, has the engine been apart? If so, who did the work? Most people do more harm then good when it comes to engine/mechanical work.

How much rust or damage is under the paint? If it has been crashed and the frame is tweaked, then it really becomes a parts bike.

What parts are missing or will have to be replaced? Most SS180 parts are unique from other models and some parts are very hard to find.

As with most vintage scooters (or any 30+ year old engine!) they really need a complete mechanical go through before they become reliable and fun to drive. So, I always figure in the cost of a rebuild unless I know it was redone by a good shop (unlikely as there are only a handful of good ones).

So, I'm sorry, I'm not much help. I will be watching to see what it does go for on e-pay.

P.S. Make sure you get FULL PAYMENT (in cash if you can) BEFORE you send the scooter off. Pay pal SUCKS because the buyer can reverse the payment AFTER they have the scooter and you have very little recourse. So Beware!
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Brooke
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:27 pm  Reply with quote
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Derrick wrote:
Most people do more harm then good when it comes to engine/mechanical work.


Hey! I resemble that remark.
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Derrick
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:18 pm  Reply with quote
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Who you?

Have you ever considered "BrokeSpeed" ? :)
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Ben
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:35 pm  Reply with quote
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A couple of things:
1. I looked at the paypal site and it seems one can only reverse the payment if the seller takes credit cards, or if it is cancelled before the payment has been accepted. If the paypal payment is done through an email invoice and accept the payment promptly, the seller gets their money.
2. Someone wants me to cancel the auction and do a "but it now". Since the auction ends shortly, why would the buyer want to do this? He'd get a better deal if he'd just bid.
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Egan
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He's afraid of the last minute push, I'm guessing.
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Ben
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:57 pm  Reply with quote
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got the money via paypal. iu was shocked by paypal's fees. $99.00
Ouch!
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