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mckkev
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:41 am  Reply with quote
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Hello everyone, this is my first post to this forum. I'm looking at getting my first scooter and would be interested in some input. Some questions I have are as follows...
Any one brand of scooter that really stands out, or one that is to be avoided?
What size? I'd like to go 55 at times.
What do they cost to insure?
At what point do you need a motorcycle endorsement?
Where are places to find good used scooters in the minneapolis area?
If I want to spend under 2000 can I get a good used scooter?

Thanks for any advice or answers to these questions.
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mckkev wrote:
Hello everyone, this is my first post to this forum. I'm looking at getting my first scooter and would be interested in some input. Some questions I have are as follows...
Any one brand of scooter that really stands out,


I'm assuming you don't mean vintage, and in that case: Kymko, TnG (twist and go), Genuine (Stella), Bajaj, Piaggio, Vespa (pricey though), Yamaha, Honda, Malaguti, Derbi are all well thought of by people. I might have missed a couple...

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or one that is to be avoided?


Vietnamese "restored" vintage scooters, Geely, Tank, and there's some more. A good place for research is the International Scooterist BBS "Bad and illegal scooters" forum...

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What size? I'd like to go 55 at times.


you'll probably want a 150.

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What do they cost to insure?


it depends, but you can usually get legal for under $100 a year.

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At what point do you need a motorcycle endorsement?


oh yeah, tom's right, it's anything over 50cc...

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Where are places to find good used scooters in the minneapolis area?


Try Scooterville! Bob is a local club member and a really nice guy.

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If I want to spend under 2000 can I get a good used scooter?


as long it's not vintage, I'd say yes.

Good luck!


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Tom Lindsay
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Yeah, talk to Bob at Scooterville. He'll set you up.

You need an endorsement for anything 50.0cc or larger (most "50cc" bikes are really 49.5cc). The MSF rider course is an easy way to get the endorsement, and it's fun - I just completed it.

Insurance is cheap - I have full comprehensive, collision, un/under-insured motorist, etc. for $175/year.

You can get a *new* 150cc bike that meets all your requirements for around $2800-$3200 at Scooterville, so you might consider that.

I take my stock Stella up to 55mph without any trouble, and as I understand it, all the Kymco/Piaggio/Bajaj 150 bikes can also maintain 55mph, so you're looking at a 150, which means you need the endorsement.

You really can't go wrong with a Honda or a Yamaha, from Honda Town on Lake Street and MotoPrimo at 26th Ave and 32nd St, respectively, but Bob's operation at Scooterville is scooters-only, so he's better equipped to explain scooter-specific things and get you up and rolling. By your description, it sounds like you might really like a Kymco People 150 if you like the modern look, or a Genuine Stella if you like the classic look. There's a lot of Stellas lurking on this board, so we're a bit partial...

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never mind.
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Say my wife would like to drive the scooter as well. She's a bit nervous to take the motorcycle test. Can this test be taken with a scooter or do you have to use a motorcycle? How intimidating is the test for someone such as my wife who has very limited experience driving motorized two wheelers?
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If she can drive a stick-shift car, then she'll be completely confident and capable by the end of a weekend at the MSF course. If not, then she'll need some remedial work.

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If she can drive a stick-shift car, then she'll be completely confident and capable by the end of a weekend at the MSF course. If not, then she'll need some remedial work.


This is a non-factor if you end up purchasing an twist and go (auto).

The Bajaj, Stella, and older Vespas/Lambretta's are shifters. All the rest are Twist and Go.

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true!

also, you have to take a written test for a learner's permit first, the permit lasts for a year, and you can ride legally for that year with some restrictions: can't ride at night, no passengers, must wear a helmet. during that year you can just practice, so when you take your skills test, you won't have to be so green.
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Becky W.
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Brad wrote:
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If she can drive a stick-shift car, then she'll be completely confident and capable by the end of a weekend at the MSF course. If not, then she'll need some remedial work.


This is a non-factor if you end up purchasing an twist and go (auto).

The Bajaj, Stella, and older Vespas/Lambretta's are shifters. All the rest are Twist and Go.


I don't know if that's necessarily a non-factor for someone with limited experience on two motorized wheels. Manual shift or twist n' go, someone not having experience simply RIDING around on a scoot or motorcycle in regular traffic, experiencing real-life situations IS a factor. She will need to take her permit test, and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Taking the MSF course is a great idea too.

Folks need to develop some confidence and learn the rules and laws before they plop their money down on a scooter and their butts in the seat. I'm SUPER GLAD that scooters are so popular now, but I get approached by a lot of curious people who are "thinking of getting one" like this fella, and I can't reiterate enough: learn to ride smart, and do things right! (Coming here for answers was a good start)!

Good luck!

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