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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:03 am  Reply with quote
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This is a gentleman's engineering thesis. He slapped a body on a scooter (I'm trying to figure out WHAT kind of scooter- probably just a little road-buzzer special) and put on some pretty body panels, speakers, and an iPod dock. The cool trick about it is that the iPod is actually the 'key', and the Mopah (his scooter) won't run unless the iPod with the correct serial number is docked in the headset. (and rocking tunes through the speakers, I guess.)
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John B.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:25 am  Reply with quote
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I guess those furniture designers he admires wern't into upolstery? nice lack of a comfortable seat. I do like the pull out cargo rack / plank idea. Square and white must be the new black.
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Remember the three-legged chairs Frank Lloyd Wright did for Johnson Wax? They were pretty neat looking too. Form meets function, hmmm...maybe not.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:32 am  Reply with quote
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You know, that Mopah may or may not be brilliant to a bunch of designers. But it definitely *IS* ugly, tacky, and way too narrow to be practical. And talk about your uncomfortable riding positions - forced to sit straight up on flat wood with a *very* narrow hand position and your feet either hanging in the street or tucked all the way in to the center.

No thanks. I hope he wins a design award somewhere far, far away...

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Tom Lindsay wrote:
You know, that Mopah may or may not be brilliant to a bunch of designers. But it definitely *IS* ugly, tacky, and way too narrow to be practical. And talk about your uncomfortable riding positions - forced to sit straight up on flat wood with a *very* narrow hand position and your feet either hanging in the street or tucked all the way in to the center.

No thanks. I hope he wins a design award somewhere far, far away...


Bigger does not always equal better. The seat is clearly not cushy but wide is not a good quality in a scooter, in my opinion. The neccessity of wide scooters has only to do with all the crap you have to stuff under the body work. No big motor and helmet bay = lighter and more narrow scooter. The seating position of being upright is ideal and what makes the vespa and modern big wheeled scooters fun to ride. foot pegs and seat cushions would be things you'd have to look for further beyond concept design stage. Honda and yamaha are way ahead of him though.

http://www.motorbox.com/Moto/Magazine/Concept_bike/4715.html

http://world.honda.com/news/2004/2040824_01.html

http://www.yamaha-motor.jp/pentagon/campaign/concept01.html
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Brooke, those modern scooters remind me of the Lambretta Lui.

I love those. Someday I will find one. A Lui that is!

I read that the Lui was Innocenti's last ditch effort to win back the scooter/moped market. Of course, Innocenti failed. ;)

Was Inoccenti too late or too early?
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Brooke
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Derrick wrote:
Brooke, those modern scooters remind me of the Lambretta Lui.

I love those. Someday I will find one. A Lui that is!

I read that the Lui was Innocenti's last ditch effort to win back the scooter/moped market. Of course, Innocenti failed. ;)

Was Inoccenti too late or too early?


Peugeot makes a Ludix scooter that looks like that too.

I think they were too early in terms of design. The Bertone design was ahead of it's time. But I'm sure there were other factors. It was probably too expensive and not reliable enough. Their competitors likely wheren't winning due to their superior aesthetic but their inexpensive and reliable natures, and not having to clutch is attractive to most people as well. Items that are too much 'concept art' rarely do well. People like things that look like everything else and are bigger than last years model. Unique and smaller is often better, IMHO, but rarely winners in the sales department unless they are much cheaper and are driven by rock stars. So late in terms of motor and early in terms of design and likely just off base in terms of price but I don't know what they went for new. Bertones other sweet designs were ahead of their time as well. The X 1/9 is awesome and just later copied by the fiero and MR2, just 10 or 20 years later (the triumph TR7 was a likely influence as well but I'm not sure which one of those two was first). It happens to the japanese too. The late 80's honda offerings that lasted only a year or two are now hot cult bikes because they were ahead of their time and nothing like it is offerred today, GB500, NT650, CB-1, and the transalp and NX series are all market failures when they were new.

You should have snapped up one of the Lui/Vegas that Carl Krueger out in San Jose was selling. They were between 800 and 1200 bucks and sweet. he's got a boat load of spares for them too.
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Jeff
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Those things go beyond nerd if you ask me. That is deep into dork territory, way deep.
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Are those beer can holders - I mean cup holders - on the front of this thing?

Now we're talkin' design!

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That is the connector platform for Lego Duplo playset:



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John B.
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That Yamaha looks like the speeder bike Darth Maul rode.
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John B. wrote:
That Yamaha looks like the speeder bike Darth Maul rode.


Dude, you were one of those people who went to each of the Star Wars prequel openings in your Chewbacca suit, weren't you?

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it wasn't a chewy suit i'm not a furry.
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