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Brad
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:30 pm  Reply with quote
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I put new bearings and seals in the frankenstein motor that I'm putting together (GT125 guts in VNB cases). It turns over and everything moves, but it seems a bit "stiff." I don't have it in a stand, I'm just have the kickstart on and pushing on it by hand with the motor sitting on the bench. I don't hear anything rubbing and all the parts seem to work (shift, clutch, piston goes up and down).

Is it normal for an engine to be a little stiff when it is first put together, or should I be worried?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:07 pm  Reply with quote
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Hi Brad, I am no expert, but I would think a new motor is going to be tight as hell....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:13 am  Reply with quote
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Isn't anyone going to say it?

*cricket noises*

No?

*more happy crickets chirping away*

Oh, alright then...

Brad! This is a "family" scooter forum, dude.

Should've resisted. Couldn't. Did it anyway.

("...but I do have my little card explaining that I have been waiting at this darn light way too long, officer, and am within my rights under Minnesota state law to go through. I know it's here in my wallet, um, somewhere...")

Okay, then, bad joke done and over with. Nothing more to see here. Move along. Move along. Y'all can go back to talking 'bout how (cue up Dr. Evil voice) "stiff" your "engine" should be or whatnot.

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dmarquis
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:49 am  Reply with quote
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hahaha I wanted to make a joke some how with this one, but I thought I better keep it on the up and up as I prolly have stired the pot enough....

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Brad
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:56 am  Reply with quote
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How about "tight?" No, that doesn't work either...

Continuing on the sexual theme, are the nuts on the cylinder studs 7mm, 1.0 thread pitch? I have one nut that stuck on the top of the stud thread, then drove the stud into the block until the head was tight.

It probably doesn't make any difference, everything is tight. But it irritates me enough that I might pull it off, reset the studs and tighten the head down again.

If I ever get this bike together, it will be a complete bodge job, hopefully one that runs.


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Tom Lindsay
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:36 am  Reply with quote
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Brad wrote:
If I ever get this bike together, it will be a complete bodge job.


Ever thought of moving to Vietnam? You could run a business putting scooters together...

Seriously Brad, it sounds like you're doing great! It seems to me that it should be pretty damn tight if it's essentially a virgin motor. There we go again...

But if the nut is really stuck at the very end of the stud, I'd probably take it and the stud out, get that nut off there and figure out why. I don't really know what I'm doing, but it seems to me you want to make sure the head is on there good...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:22 am  Reply with quote
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You guys really have problems. Just add one of these!
http://www.ashtonseals.com/GreaseNipples.html

"The most enviable grease nipple range in the world."

Neal

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:51 am  Reply with quote
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nealaustin wrote:
You guys really have problems. Just add one of these!
http://www.ashtonseals.com/GreaseNipples.html

"The most enviable grease nipple range in the world."

Neal


ROFLMAO

Now I'm going to be giggling all day long with that bouncing around in my head and people are going to be wondering about me. Well, they wonder about me already. They'll probably just slowly move away from me now.

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John B.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:07 pm  Reply with quote
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Brad keep in mind you are looseing a lot of leverage when the engine is not mounted in the frame or stand. Have you added oil back into it yet? that will help with all the friction, if the cylinder is clean and dry your rings will be adding quite a bit of drag too.
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Brad
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:24 pm  Reply with quote
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I did add a little 10w30 inside the piston when I put it together. The rest has oil also.

I did suppose that maybe my arm is not as efficient as my leg when it comes to the kickstart. Or maybe I'm getting weak from this desk job : )

Thanks John, see you on Saturday.

PS The frame welding was $96 - I haven't seen the result yet, I still have to fetch it.

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Can I be it`s first to kick the starter? I will feel special then... Oh but I don`t want Brad`s scooter stalking me fir the rest of my life.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:18 pm  Reply with quote
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it's gonna be tight as a bastard till ya run it. if ya didn't use a little oil on the cylinder and piston it was probably tough to put it together. remember if you have a top end on there that is new or has been rebored make sure you use exta oil when premixing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:09 am  Reply with quote
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I'm reusing the top end, but the motor has all new bearings and seals. Plus it is 32 degrees in the garage, so I think that it's going to be a little stiff. I'm going to assume its fine. I'm going to have to figure out a stand to see if it runs.

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