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Mojo Willy
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:06 am  Reply with quote
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Yep, third Slovenian masterpiece of craftsmanship that I've blown out. (some people never learn). Losing a tire on the rally yesterday could have taken down a raft of bikes as well, but the fates were smiling and I was able to keep it up and guide it over to the ditch.

Actually I was told the first two were a "bad batch" and the new ones were OK. Well, cheap tires = expensive investment. Now the "new" one (2 seasons old with 75% of the tread left) is a pile of rubber shards.

Check your tires before you ride. If yours have weather cracks like I did, they should go, lest you do. I'm swapping out three of my bikes that wear Savas.

My P is so good in all other respects and here I was riding on crap tires. I think it will be new Continentals or Zippy 1's unless someone knows of something better.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:01 am  Reply with quote
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I'm on my second Shinko whitewall on the rear of my P200. Costs less than the Continental, and holds up just as well. Also, they are a little fatter and rounder (like the Conti's) so if you have clearance problems, this might not be the tire for you. I've only run my Sava spare a couple times and I didn't like it very much.
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Tom Lindsay
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:15 pm  Reply with quote
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I loves my Zippy 1s on tubeless rims - makes a Stella feel, dare I say, "sporty"?

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wow, is that what happened to you? I looked and you were gone and suddenly realized I'm leading 231 scooterists through Edina and Southwest Mpls all by myself. Holy Shit!

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So, I can't tell... do you recommend the SAVA's or not?




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nate
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If you're not riding incredibly aggressively and plan on putting a few miles on in the rain, I'd go for the Zippy 3s.

Granted, the "sport tread" tires that I'm still convinced caused my one non-jackassery related accident weren't Contis- but the Zip 3s are fantastic as dairly riders, rain or shine.
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Tom Lindsay
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:24 am  Reply with quote
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I've actually found the Zippy 1s to be *better* in the rain than the Zippy 3s. Now Zippy 3s are better on snow and ice, and I keep a pair on rims in my garage for that very reason, but in any conditions above freezing I've found the Zippy 1s to be better. Block treads are the best tire design of 1946, and there's been an awful lot of development in tires in the intervening 60 years.

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Derrick
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I agree with Nate. Zippy 3's for all around town rain or shine. Zippy 1's don't work well on that just wet/sprinkling oil slick stuff that takes most people down. Ya, it's an older design but somethings don't get better!

But on the flip side I have not had any issues with SAVA white walls. I've gone through 3 sets on my GS with no problems. Proper tire inflation is critical with any tire but even more so with tubes.
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nate
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Derrick wrote:


But on the flip side I have not had any issues with SAVA white walls. I've gone through 3 sets on my GS with no problems. Proper tire inflation is critical with any tire but even more so with tubes.


Tires don't tend to just blow out when the bike just sits in your garage and looks pretty, though.
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Derrick
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nate wrote:
Derrick wrote:


But on the flip side I have not had any issues with SAVA white walls. I've gone through 3 sets on my GS with no problems. Proper tire inflation is critical with any tire but even more so with tubes.


Tires don't tend to just blow out when the bike just sits in your garage and looks pretty, though.



What a Jerk! I was agreeing with you! At least my scooters don't piss all over.
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Derrick wrote:

What a Jerk! I was agreeing with you! At least my scooters don't piss all over.


I do have a reputation to uphold...
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Damn it, you're going to make me disagree with my vintage snob brothers and agree with teh stellaspeed guy... I also think the Zippy 1's are just as good in the rain as teh 3's, plus it's dry more often than not. More rubber on the road makes for a better ride. I just don't like the feel of tradition tread tires after riding the 1's.

But how exactly did it "blow out"? Teh actual tire or the tube? or what?

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Matty wrote:
Damn it, you're going to make me disagree with my vintage snob brothers and agree with teh stellaspeed guy...


Ha!

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Matty wrote:
\ More rubber on the road makes for a better ride.


More rubber on the road also makes for less area to evacuate water from, though.

Once bitten on aggressive tread, it's going to take awhile before I'd feel comfortable putting them back on my bike again. Personal preference.
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Derrick
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The worst case scenario for day to day riding is during the first 10-15 minutes of rain IMO. That's when you get that emulsified slime on the road and it's like riding on ice. The vintage style block tread works better on that. True it does not rain every day and most of the time emulsified slime is not an issue. But when does rain and your stuck 20 miles from home it's nice to have that little bit of extra traction.
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